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Re: The RPF: $cientology's Slave Labor Camp
From: peterschilte@gmail.com (Peter Schilte)
On 13 jul, 09:04, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12 Juli, 19:33, Peter Schilte <peterschi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12 jul, 18:56, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12 Juli, 15:00, Peter Schilte <peterschi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:17, Roadrunner <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 Juli, 21:18, "Honest Abe" <freespe...@4ever.net> wrote:
"Roadrunner" <roadrunner.eni...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b05b95e2-a975-4bde-9fd2-0fbb08fc66c0@41g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On 10 Juli, 21:16, "Honest Abe" <freespe...@4ever.net> wrote:
The facts about their "RPF" prove the egregious hypocrisy in $cientology's
criticism of psychiatry.
From the Usenet archives:
The RPF: $cientology's Slave Labor Camp
In 1974, the blatant breaking of another person's will - "break 'em down,
build 'em back up" - was implemented by Hubbard as an official "Church"
institution: The Rehabilitation Project Force.
It was created nor implemented by him. And you talk about facts?
Please get your facts right FIRST!
RR
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You are claiming that what I have read from several sources is wrong?
Yes, quite so. i.e. according to your conclusion.
What,
then, ARE the facts?
The RPF was established during Flubbard's tenure as Holy Overlord of
$cientology. He was in complete control.
Nonsense, you have no evidence forthat.
If he did not, WHO created the RPF,
Ken Urquhart
and WHY did Flubbard allow it to
continue in operation?
Indeed, that may have been the real name of that person. May be you
are on to something.
INVESTIGATE before you SPOUT! VERIFY the CORRECTNESS of your sources.
Wouldn't it be nice you do the same where psychiatry is concerned.....
On topic: You seem to have no other answer than suggesting is was
someone else,
In fact there are detailed studies about this, but these are a total
waste on you.
I know that! I found some on the internet, you know: The source you
advised people to have a look 'cause "there is sufficient information
on the internet".
I said 'detailed studies'. There is lots of crap as well.
Sure....
Especially when it isn't in agreement with your world view, right?
maybe even this mysterious doppelganger of Hubbard that
established the RPF.
Where is your verification of the correctness of this claim?
Ken Urquhart established it, and this is very much confirmed by
verified fact.
Question remains: Did Urquhart established the RPF with or without
Hubbard's approval.
Like in most organizations, there is this thing called "to delegate",
which in essence means that some other Pictures of People">person than the person in
charge does the job, authorized by this person in charge.
And don't come with "but Hubbard resigned in 1969", because in reality
he was still very much in charge seeing how many HCO PL's were issued
after 1969.
1966. Nonono, you have completely misunderstood this. Read the policy
letters about the resignation.
HCO PL 4 Jan 66 VI "LRH Relationships to Orgs"
HCO PL 1 Sept 66 "Founder"
These are evidence that you are a manipulative liar and propagator.
Shame on you...
OK, 1966. Yet there were many Policy Letters issued after 1966, like
the one about "Fair Game". I don't see much resignation there....
And of course this claim that Urquhart established the RPF is very
convenient. After all he left the cult some years later and became a
critic.
In fact you are suggesting here that poor old Hubbard is completely
innocent where it concerns the RPF, and that bad guy Urquhart did it
all by himself.
And you want to be taken seriously?
You want to be taken seriously when you have nothing to back up your
claim, and when available verified data CONTRADICT you.
You focus too much on written words. All they are is theory, or a
smoke curtain. Like Fair Game, which is supposed to be abandoned yet
still in practice.
You seem to be unable to see the con here. But hey, no surprise after
28 years of indoctrinating....
You have adopted your beliefsystem, you are a cultmember. You ADOPT
according to your fixations and opinions.
Ditto.
People like you are no worry, they always shatter when confronted with
persons that know what they talk about.
Like you talking about psychiatry you mean?
Warning to readers: Verify EVERYTHING FOR CORRECTNESS when this Peter
de Schilte character says something.
Demand that he clarifies himself
and provide his hard data.
Please do the same with the poster Roadrunner/Michel Snoeck.
And don't be surprised he will never comply, just attack you,
invalidate you ("you never were in, you don't understand"), ridicule
you, and ignore most everything you present that supports your claims.
Peter
"Well, how do we know that you are not [a child molester]. You see,
you are quite irrational in your approach. That means that there
would be something you are hiding. This is also actually part of
ordinary psychology."
- Michel Snoeck to Peter Schilte, 19 jan 2008.
RR
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